City Council Passes Congestion Pricing. Next Stop: Albany.

The City Council has voted 30-20 to approve the home rule message sending congestion pricing to the state legislature. Noah Budnick of Transportation Alternatives gave us the full roll call, after the jump.





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  • Spud Spudly

    That’s it, you guys finally did it. I was finally motivated to write to Shelly Silver to urge him to kill this thing and to come up with a more equitable method of traffic control. I doubt he’ll listen to any of us, but what the heck.

  • uSkyscraper

    Cap’n — points taken. Your blog post makes a good argument.

    I’ll stop complaining about the PA tolls – I just have to shift my viewpoint from trying to deter NJ traffic from today’s commuting patterns to accepting that today’s traffic are already existing in a deterred state and we are now waiting for the NY side to catch up. I would love to see less traffic on the GW/HT/LT rather than maintain the current heavy volumes, which I consider unacceptable in terms of congestion and pollution, but so be it.

    As for PA spending on mass transit, if the situation is that there will effectively be two separate pools of CP funds (city and PA’s internal one), both of which are spending money on transit, fine. I happen to have worked with the PA and do not trust them as far as I can throw them, but we’ll just have to hope for the best. If that toll money ends up developing Stewart Airport instead of a fantasy tunnel, that’s the risk we take.

  • The worst part of the Soho residents’ assault on Streetsblog was that there was one commenter that seemed to sincerely express this opinion, but on the internet you never really know. Super-wealthy, frequent drivers are an irrelevant fringe element of c.p. support (it’s surprising how far up the income ladder the $8 opposition goes) and if they hang out here they are very quiet. Most Manhattan car owners are relieved they can motor around the UES without paying (for now) because that is where they live. Most of them oppose c.p. despite that. All of them are in the minority, being car owners. But please do join us on the subway sometime, the economy car that puts the economy of your car to shame. Less traffic for everyone: Thank God!

  • rhubarbpie

    Nice job, folks! On to Albany!

  • Josh

    Considering that there are some folks in positions of power (with designs on positions of more power) who would like to see CP killed, I’m really hoping this gets moved as quickly as reasonably possible so that people have the chance to see its benefits before it might get the axe.

  • Carolyn Konheim

    #28 I agree, the fee should be inflation adjusted. As it is, it will have no effect on the 30% who now pay $8. But according to Jeanette Sadik-Khan, any increase would require legislative approval and s repeat of the current ordeal.
    #39 – An $8 fee one way, split among three motorists, = $1.33 each way, much less than average $1.76 Metrocard fare. Since half the auto entries have 2 or more people, there’s no price incentive for them to change. Since the SOVs mostly come from the fringes where the only options are $10/round trip express buses or $12/round trip commuter rail lines, there’s no price incentive for them either.
    #47 – Agreed. The cost at all entries must be uniform and should be all inbound to avoid the current distorted traffic patterns, but we’re starting out with the base (cash) toll on MTA crossings at $10. And it may not be apparent to drivers that they can’t evade an outbound $4 MTA toll by exiting over a free bridge because, I am told, that the $4 credit will only be deducted when they pay the exit toll.

  • dave

    if all goes well.
    when we will actually start paying for the toll?

  • Benjamin

    Thank you Bill de Blasio for sticking up for taxpayers. Congestion pricing is a sham and you were intelligent enough to realize it. Thank you.

  • Maybe de Blasio can really stick up for taxpayers by cancelling this $850 million Belt Parkway boondoggle:

  • Justin

    People from NJ already have to pay tolls to drive into city, and certainly trucks and other businesses do. The only people who can access Manhattan without paying tolls is certain people coming off Queens and Brooklyn.

    But if you can afford a car in NYC, and if you can afford gas drive around with today’s gas prices, then that means congestion taxes may not deter anyone from driving.

    I’m told from someone from London that congestion polls did reduce traffic in London initially, but then it went back to it’s originally level.

    It will be the same in NYC. All this does is give the MTA additional revenues. An $8 per day charge is 40 dollars a week. Most drivers spend a lot more than that on gas, and you cannot charge really high taxes because a lot of vehicles must enter the city (trucks and all) for business purposes. Also, certain messenger services need cars. I worked on a film set, and that equipment has to be moved around by car or van.


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