Meet Amy Paulin — The Assembly Member Tasked With MTA Oversight

Subway and bus riders need a champion. The Westchester rep says she's up for the task.

Paulin with MTA New York City Transit President Andy Byford. Photo: Paulin's office
Paulin with MTA New York City Transit President Andy Byford. Photo: Paulin's office

SB Donation NYC header 2Assembly Member Amy Paulin wants to be a champion for New York’s beleaguered subway and bus riders.

But unlike her predecessor, Bronx rep Jeffrey Dinowitz, Paulin hails from suburban Scarsdale, not New York City. Dinowitz used his close proximity to transit riders to build relationships with advocates. To much acclaim, he amplified their campaigns, both in media and amongst his Assembly colleagues.

But as head of the Assembly’s Authorities and Corporations Committee, he was loathe to hold oversight hearings — and never did.

In contrast, Paulin, who took over the all-important committee earlier this year after Dinowitz got a different assignment, has promised hearings. She’s also taken on a role as the Assembly’s representative on the so-called “MTA Sustainability Advisory Working Group,” which has been meeting in secret for the last few months to address the myriad issues facing the agency.

Streetsblog spoke to Paulin earlier this week about her 2019 committee agenda.

You represent Westchester County. How can New York City residents count on you to look out for their interests?

Well, I did grow up in Brooklyn, in East Flatbush. I did live in a transit desert. I needed to take a bus to the subway, I did that my whole childhood.

I have a husband who commutes [by train]. I have a son who lives in Brooklyn. What I don’t experience, I hear about. And I know the importance of the city to the people [in Westchester] who I represent, who are often in the city — as am I.

The truth of the matter is the Park Avenue train shed and the Park Avenue viaduct — which serve a great number of commuters from the Bronx and Westchester — if it’s not repaired, we won’t have a commuter rail. It leaks and it’s old, and we don’t want to get to the point where people think the subway’s gone, but [Metro-North] is near behind.

So you see yourself as a champion for subway riders?

Absolutely. 100 percent. Without an effective transit system, New York wouldn’t be what New York is, and it won’t continue to be what New York is. It’s everything to us. It’s people’s jobs, it’s people’s livelihood. It’s their recreation. It’s what made New York great and we can’t afford to lose it — or let it deteriorate any further.

You say you will hold oversight hearings. What do you want to get out of them?

There was a hope and expectation that Fast Forward would start sooner, so we need to hear more about financing and the ability to do that. We need to have the MTA in and talk about their financing, and where they’re at and why they’re at the point.

Something that we’ve heard about with regards with capital and construction costs, and that there’s an automatic built-in cost of 25 percent. Why? Why? Because the bureaucracy is so difficult. If we really want to get these things done quickly and cost effectively, we need to get at what are those issues, what is that approval process, what is going on internally that doesn’t allow the projects to be done in the most cost-effective way.

They need to demonstrate to us how they’re going to address that. If we’re going to put the public’s money there, we have to have the assurance that it’s going to be used in the most efficient and wise way.

The MTA is almost a composite of agencies, as opposed to working smoothly under one [roof]. There’s a lot of bureaucracy and a lot of problems in how it’s structured, and a lot of problems with the culture that that structure has created.

What’s your take on the MTA’s financial situation?

It’s dire. Regardless of whether or not we believe they were effective or efficient in the way they spent money in the past, they have no more money to spend. They have no more money to bond for capital projects. Without an infusion of funds, you can forget Fast Forward — we won’t even see “slow forward.”

As I’m sure you know, the MTA must exhaust all funding sources, including borrowing, before the state fulfills its $8.3-billion capital commitment. That means annual debt repayments, which come from the operating budget, are going to grow. Are you concerned by that?

We have to look at advancing the state money, which is tied the city’s money. If the city advances [its contribution] as well, it will help the MTA decrease its anticipated [operating] deficit.

Not entirely eliminate it, but decrease. The MTA’s current administration knows that they have internal reforms to make. An example: They have lawyers in every department, they do procurement in every department. Do they need to bring those under one umbrella to be more efficient? There are a lot of those internal operations that need a good fix.

Gov. Cuomo opposes the fare hikes scheduled for 2019. Do you?

Look, it’s hard to have a fare hike at the same time when the service has been so poor. It’s very difficult to call on people to pay more. Yet if they don’t [raise the fare], we’re going to have a big [funding] gap. I understand both sides. I think both positions have merit. But I am not going to be standing on a bully pulpit telling the MTA to raise fares.

Do you support congestion pricing?

I do. I think the momentum is growing. I don’t know that we’re there yet. When we get back up [to Albany], I’ll see what my fellow legislators think. We have a lot of people to convince.

This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

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  • I did live in a transit desert. I needed to take a bus to the subway…

    Attention, genius MTA overseer: buses count as transit.

  • AMH

    “The MTA is almost a composite of agencies, as opposed to working smoothly under one [roof].”

    It’s great that she understands this. Having a single transit system, rather than separate ones bickering over their fiefdoms, would do wonders for the city.

  • Elizabeth F

    I’ve had good interactions with Amy Paulin’s staff on issues regarding bicycle access to the new Tappan Zee Bridge. I hope she does well for the MTA in her new role.

  • Daphna

    Pure politician-speak – avoids all the hard answers. Says things that sound nice.

  • Larry Littlefield

    “We need to have the MTA in and talk about their financing, and where they’re at and why they’re at the point.”

    A nine term incumbent is going to ask the MTA why they are at this point? Does she really want the answer?

    Your generation pillaged financially, that’s why. (And not just at the MTA). What did she vote in favor of during those nine terms? Everything passes 212 to zero.

  • To the question of why the MTA is at the point that it is at, the correct answer is: the fare has been far too low for many decades.

  • Larry Littlefield

    When I last did the analysis if people had paid all along since 1995 what they are paying now, that would have been $6.5 billion. So that’s part of it.

    The 2000 retroactive pension increase was part of it. So were the additional pension increases for other titles, which caused “fungible” money to be shifted from the transit system to, for example, the pension plans for teachers and cops.

    The cutoff of tax funding funding in the early 1990s was a big part of it.

    The explosion of contractor prices was part of it.

    Everybody took a piece.

    Or, you could say here generation took more and more out and put less and less in. And not just at the MTA.

  • Boris

    Here’s a talking point that isn’t a talking point, but should be: raising fares is like raising the debt ceiling. The money has already been spent. Arguing about it is pointless. The spending was already authorized prior; raising the fare is just an after-the-fact formality.

  • Larry Littlefield

    The only good news about the current situation is that with the Democrats fully in control of the state government, there is no one for them to blame as taxes rise and public services melt down.

    Kind of like having the Republicans in control of the federal government, where they have done the most damage on behalf of Generation Greed. As in 2008, in 2020 the Dems many wish they hadn’t taken one of the houses of Congress, when then end up voting to bail out the rich and privileged again as the serfs take another leg down.