Brooklyn CB 6 Committees Vote Unanimously for DOT’s Next Steps on PPW

The transportation and public safety committees of Brooklyn Community Board 6 unanimously approved a motion last night supporting DOT’s proposals to, among other things, add raised concrete pedestrian islands and bike “rumble strips” to the redesigned Prospect Park West.

The full resolution is quite lengthy and includes a few of the committee’s own recommendations, like measuring crashes and injuries on PPW until we have a solid three-year sample. In the main, said board member Gary Reilly, who introduced the motion, the resolution “accepts various proposals that we have already supported” and says “we’re on board with these changes” proposed by DOT.

Streetsblog will post the final text of the resolution and the official vote tally when it becomes available. Last night’s vote by show of hands was declared unanimous, with about 12 people raising their hands, by my count. The next meeting of the full board is April 13.

  • Just want to say thanks to all of you who’ve supported the Prospect Park West Bike Path and Traffic-Calming project. We’re very close to making this a permanent, and exemplary, piece of New York City’s cycling, pedestrian and traffic-calming infrastructure.

  • dporpentine

    “Unanimously approved”: nothing brings a group together like being constantly attacked as part of some nefarious conspiracy–a conspiracy that, like all good conspiracies, requires you to engage in constant deception, to put your personal integrity and professional reputation on the line for . . . some volunteer work you do in the evenings every once in a while.

    Not that they couldn’t have reached that same conclusion without all that screaming from Neighbors for Hatred. But I bet that has made those committees that much more determined to see this thing through to the end.

  • @dporpentine, that’s a great point. Because the NBBL and “Seniors for Suing” aren’t really suing NYCDOT, they’re suing their neighborhood and the Community Board and the six-year-old kids who want to ride a bike without fear of getting pancaked. CB6 has been working on this for four years, and as you point out, they’re all volunteers who care about making their community a better place to live.

  • So, what are these rumble strips going to be like? Are they going to span the entire width of both directions of the lane? And if so, will they be just like the rumble strips I’m familiar with from highway driving? If they are, then it sounds like they’re a means of punishing cyclists with discomfort, just for being there.

    If they are like highway rumble strips but they’re built so that they’re about as jarring to a cyclist as highway ones are to drivers, then maybe I wouldn’t object to that, but if they’re exactly the same as highway rumble strips, then that would be unacceptable.

    Anyone know?

  • chris mcnally

    The rumble strips are similar to those on the Manhattan east side greenway where it runs under the FDR between the Manhattan and Brooklyn bridges. They are nothing like highway rumble strips. I believe DOT said they were paint or plastic laid on top of the surface. They visibly let you know you are in a pedestrian crossing area. They won’t be a problem for adult or child riders.

  • Larry Littlefield

    I’ll take a little bump to remind any less responsible cyclists to yield to pedestrians. One shouldn’t be going that fast in proximity to a crossing anyway.

  • eveostay

    “They’re suing their neighborhood and the Community Board and the six-year-old kids who want to ride a bike without fear of getting pancaked”

    They are also suing the taxpayers. Even if the DOT wins, the taxpayers still lose because we will have had to pay to defend the case.

  • I’m totally with you, Larry, provided that chris mcnally is right. But if they’re like highway rumble strips, then you don’t want to bike over them at 1 mph.

  • Larry Littlefield

    Well, they could stick a skinny bollard in the middle of the bike lane on either side of the pedestrian crossing, with a sign that said Slow Down and Yield.”

    Bicycles would have to slow down to move around the bollard. Unless they weren’t going that fast to being with.

  • I think it’s basically the equivalent of running over a few strips of construction paper. Lots of strip, very little rumble. Definitely not like drifting onto the shoulder on I-95. And if it serves as even a little bit of reminder to cyclists to yield to pedestrians, I think it’s a good thing.

  • J

    Does anyone know when these improvements are slated to go it? I know ped refuges take quite a bit more time and money to install than epoxy and gravel.

  • Daphna

    @J These changes were only voted on by the transportation and public safety committees. The Brooklyn Community full Board needs to vote on them. Their next meeting is April 13. Maybe it will be on their agenda. Community Boards are only advisory. The DOT does not need up or down votes on their projects from the Community Boards. However, the DOT has made a habit of only proceeding when a Community Board votes a street change up. This is having disastrous effects. The DOT often waters down their plans to please the Community Boards, but then the DOT sill does not get any credit in the press or among politicians for having collaborated with the community.


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