Cartoon Tuesday: Pricing Post-Mortem Edition

Also particularly germane today is this CARtoon by Andy Singer, the first of what we plan to make a regular series on Streetsblog. Singer is a Minnesota-based cartoonist known in the livable streets universe for skewering car culture in strips like this one.

  • Really? What’s over the top about it?

  • JK

    Tuesday Toons is a great feature!

  • Jan

    You are going to lose fence sitters by posting this type of cartoon. Were it this simple! Its not this simple and if you don’t know that you (and we) are in big trouble. This is polarizing and if that is the way you viewed CP then that is why CP lost. If you want to go down this feel sorry for yourselves route, good luck. Oh yeah, its also incredibly self-righteous as though anyone who disagrees with CP is pro-war. Fools.

  • Mark

    What I like about the cartoon, in addition to its pointedness, is the way it ties together things happening on the local, national, and international levels — revealing the car to be not just a personal transportation option but a whole world-view. Andy Singer emboldens us to embrace a different world-view. Good work.

  • 67%

    Don’t forget 67% of New Yorkers supported the mayor’s plan to use congestion pricing to help pay for transit. Repeat 67%. It would have won if the public voted on it referendum style. Congestion pricing had the backing of the broadest coalition of interest groups seen in memory, perhaps ever, in New York City. It passed City Council. It was an answer.

  • Brooklyn Dad

    Stuff it, Jan. The editorial content of this cartoon is mainstream thought today in all but the most benighted circles. Think about the connection between your own automobile dependence and American boys dying to protect our international oil supply every time you turn your ignition key. If that thought gives you uncomfortable feelings, you can try to blame it on a “self righteous” cartoonist. Or you can do something about it.

  • mike

    I agree that this cartoon is not likely to win folks over to CP or other specific livable streets improvements, but I think it’s a useful meme to spread. Do not our actions have effects at the global level? Beyond improving our own lives, and that of our communities, that’s why we’re doing this, right?

    Still, it’s not something you want to whip out at a community board meeting.

  • Shemp
  • mike

    Shemp, I’m not being whimpy. Although I completely agree with the cartoon, and think every citizen should have it drilled into their heads, I don’t feel that it’s very effective advocacy to waive it people’s faces when trying to make a point about a specific improvement you’re trying to advance.

  • Shemp

    The specific improvement is dead and buried, so we’re trying to wave the big interconnections in peoples’ faces.

  • jason

    If that cartoon is the height of our bitterness and anger over this mistake, we’re pretty moderate folks. It makes some uncomfortable because it makes the connection they just don’t want to make in their heads.

    Also:

    Why can’t we just start tolling the east river bridges now? With EZPass and cameras (no booths). Throw in market-based street parking in lower Manhattan, too!

  • Mark

    To be more specific, re Jason’s suggestion to toll the ER bridges with EZPass, would that require action by the state legislature or city council? Inquiring minds would like to know.

  • Dave

    To be equitable we need to toll the Harlem River bridges too; capture Brodsky and the richy-riches from Westchester. How much are we spending to rebuild the Willis Ave and Madison Ave bridges?

    I think this requires Albany’s input; and we know how much thy love us, don’t we?

  • Clearly, you guys didn’t read my December 2006 congestion pricing opus…

    http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/04/congestion-charging-in-new-york-city-the-political-bloodbath/

    “Gridlock” Sam worked with Ketcham during the Lindsay administration and later became a Deputy Commissioner for the Department of Transportation under Mayor Ed Koch. “In 1980 after the transit strike, Ed Koch actually introduced a traffic regulation, a new law, to charge people in driver-only cars. If you wanted to drive into Manhattan and you were alone in your car you had to use one of the toll facilities,” Schwartz said.

    The legislation passed City Council and was within days of being implemented when the parking garage industry and the Automobile Club of New York sued to stop it. “We lost the law suit on the argument that the city didn’t have the authority to toll the bridges. Tolling the bridges requires state legislation.” Though many of today’s congestion pricing advocates believe Automobile Club of New York v. Koch is flawed and could be overturned in court (PDF file), the City’s own lawyers and many in Albany believe that any congestion pricing system that involves tolling the city’s bridges must go through the state legislature before its enacted — an added complication to say the least.

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