Ignizio: NYC Should Tell Drivers Where It’s OK to Run Reds

You’ve got to hand it to City Council Member Vincent Ignizio: If nothing else, the man is consistent.

Council Member Vincent Ignizio says NYC owes speeding drivers a chance to get away with endangering lives. Photo: ##http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20131211/tottenville/councilman-ignizio-elected-city-council-minority-leader##DNAinfo##
Vincent Ignizio says NYC owes drivers a chance to get away with endangering lives. Photo: ##http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20131211/tottenville/councilman-ignizio-elected-city-council-minority-leader##DNAinfo##

Ignizio has a long history of opposing measures to make streets safer and improve transit. The Staten Island rep’s greatest hits include a proposal to subject NYC bike lanes to environmental review, killing the bike lane on Father Capodanno Boulevard, watering down Select Bus Service on Hylan Boulevard in order to preserve parking, and degrading SBS service citywide by cowing the MTA into shutting off the flashing blue lights on all SBS buses.

For his next trick, Ignizio wants to take the teeth out of NYC’s automated traffic enforcement program. The Daily News reports:

New York City Councilman Vincent Ignizio (R-S.I.) will introduce a bill Wednesday to require the city to post signs alerting drivers at intersections where there are red-light cameras.

The city’s current policy is not to reveal the cameras’ locations in order to maximize the deterrent effect.

“We owe it to the motorists to let them know this is a camera-enforced intersection,” said Ignizio. “It’s not about revenue-generating, it’s about slowing people down and getting them to stop.”

This bill probably won’t go anywhere, in part because, as the News points out, it would make the city’s small number of enforcement cameras far less effective. After all, signs telling drivers where cameras are would also tell them where cameras aren’t.

Ignizio is right, of course, that the traffic camera program is all about getting people to drive safely — and as a council member, he must be aware that speeding is the city’s leading cause of traffic deaths. But how will NYC get people to obey traffic laws on 6,000 miles of streets if motorists know exactly where they’ll never get caught?

  • sbauman

    I’d grant Ignazio his wish by removing all traffic lights from Staten Island. After all, you cannot have red light cameras, if there are no red lights.

  • Stacy Walsh Rosenstock

    Maybe it’s time Ignizio re-read his NYS Drivers’ Manual. The only time it’s OK to run a red light is when the light is green.

  • This point has been made elsewhere, but this bill makes about as much sense as requiring plainclothes officers to wear badges or t-shirts that say “I’m a cop.”

  • mistermarkdavis

    I was recently driving in staten island and stopped at a stop light a guy next to me blew through the light going through a crosswalk with a personally crossing with the signal. Red light lawlessness needs to stop.

  • TomG

    Or we could require homeowners and shipowners to advertise to potential criminals whether they have alarm systems or not. How is this moron able to walk upright?

  • Ian Turner

    I might be OK with this if we also got home rule to install as many red light cameras as financially feasible.

    Or, maybe also if it’s OK for DOT to install “red light camera” signs even where there are no cameras.

  • Mark Walker

    When did “revenue” become a pejorative term? You’d think a conservative politician would welcome a safety initiative that pays for itself, rather than being a burden on taxpayers. But if he really feels it’s bad to make lawbreakers pay fines, let’s explore an alternative: automatic license points, but no fines, every time a driver blows through a red light. Those dangerous drivers would be off the street in no time.

  • Bolwerk

    The five basic rules of propaganda: simplification, disfiguration (mock opposition), transfusion (spreading poison memes and values), [false] unanimity, and orchestration.

    He’s arguably hitting at least four of them.

  • Seereous

    And yet, the Governor rewarded this guy by reducing the toll on the VN Bridge, thus encouraging SI residents to drive into the City rather than take public transportation. Like Brooklyn and Manhattan need more cars here.

  • anon

    A lot of cities do this. They also put the signs up for every direction approaching an intersection, even though usually only one has a camera. If the city is allowed to do that, plus is allowed to install as many cameras as they want, it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world.

  • mfs

    In Europe speed and red light camera locations are publicly disclosed and put into GPSs. Then your GPS beeps when you’re coming up on one. It’s pretty effective.

  • moocow

    Put up fake cameras, and their fake signs.
    Lots of them.

  • Zach

    Effective at encouraging speeding and running lights?

  • Guest

    Mr. Ignizio also introduced a bill yesterday calling for pedestrian countdown signals to be installed at all intersections with red light cameras.

    http://tinyurl.com/knoql8z

    Why, you may ask? The countdown signals are commonly used by turning drivers to estimate how much time they have to clear an intersection before the light changes. I’ve had quite a few Staten Island drivers tell me they believe the countdown signals are their for that purpose, for their convenience. Nothing encourages safer driving than a motorist anxiously watching the clock rather than looking out for people in the crosswalk…

    thttp://tinyurl.com/22scxe4

    This is the same Vincent Ignizio who asked the police in 2007 to not ticket cars parked in bike lanes. And this clown was on the Council Transportation Committee for years.

    http://tinyurl.com/22scxe4

  • Aunt Bike

    Mr. Ignizio also introduced a bill yesterday calling for pedestrian
    countdown signals to be installed at all intersections with red light
    cameras.

    http://tinyurl.com/knoql8z

    Why, you may ask? The countdown signals are commonly used by turning
    drivers to estimate how much time they have to clear an intersection
    before the light changes. I’ve had quite a few Staten Island drivers
    tell me they believe the countdown signals are their for that purpose,
    for their convenience. Nothing encourages safer driving than a motorist
    anxiously watching the clock rather than looking out for people in the
    crosswalk, IMHO.

    thttp://tinyurl.com/22scxe4

    This is the same Vincent Ignizio who asked the police in 2007 to not
    ticket cars parked in bike lanes. And this clown was on the Council
    Transportation Committee for years.

    http://tinyurl.com/22scxe4

  • Aunt Bike

    I’m more in favor of using continuing to use the cameras to change driver behavior, as I’ve seen in first hand comparisons with camera equipped intersections and their unequipped counterparts.

    I’m also in favor of continuing to pay for the camera program with revenue from the lawbreakers who make it necessary. If there’s money left over? I don’t have a problem with that. We can use it to pay for increasing traditional enforcement, which is also badly needed.

  • Aunt Bike

    Mark, some people seem blissfully unaware that a city has authority to fine people for breaking rules, and every city has been doing this since there were cities.

  • ddartley

    Ha right on Moocow I too was thinking our friends at Right of Way could just start making their own knock-offs of Ignizio’s signs EVERYWHERE.

  • moocow

    Just the signs, that’s even cheaper!
    Doesn’t the City really install fake cameras already?

  • afk

    I had thought they were limited to 50 (?) cameras in operation, but no limit on the number of cameras installed – so I think they have real cameras that aren’t giving out tickets or warnings, and could only do so by deactivating a camera elsewhere.

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