Bloomberg: HOV Restrictions Probably Won’t Resume on Monday

Some notes from Bloomberg’s latest Sandy briefing, which wrapped up minutes ago:

  • HOV restrictions end at 5 p.m. today, and will not resume Monday unless deemed necessary.
  • The Holland Tunnel has been reopened to buses and commercial vehicles.
  • The Staten Island Ferry is now operating and will be back on its regular schedule tomorrow.
  • Bloomberg asked motorists to “cut out unnecessary driving,” though gasoline supplies should be replenished somewhat tonight. Demand should taper off next week as transit service comes back online. As it stands, emergency vehicles and buses have priority, Bloomberg said.

The mayor expects Con Ed to restore power to Lower Manhattan over the weekend, which would bring the resumption of subway service on the 4, 5, and F trains, according to MTA chief Joe Lhota.

  • Jeff

    Well that kind of sucks.  Assuming the 14th St Tunnel won’t be reopened by Monday, it looks like busses will be stuck in traffic and I’ll therefore be staying home again.  Too bad the balance has been tipped away from using our surface transportation infrastructure to actually move people, and back to allowing the anointed few to sit still in traffic and making honking noises.

  • @7e1970922cf83fe54c9f1a64d1af39c9:disqus +1. You’ve gotta hope that if the L, B, Q, N, R, 2, 3, A, C, E, J, M, Z, and 7 trains aren’t operating across the river on Monday, there will still be HOV restrictions in effect.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure most drivers, who read that HOV is ending, are probably relived. 

    But, Bloomberg is doing you no favor.  Eliminating HOV, while mass-transit and many roads are still in disarray, is another recipe for pure grid-lock.

  • voltairesmistress

    I find it shocking that many on this blog express concern about getting subway lines running but nothing about helping people in Staten Island and elsewhere find the bodies of their relatives and neighbors.  Manhattanites above 39th Street, there’s suffering just off your shoreline. Maybe you can take the Staten Island ferry tomorrow and deliver some help, personally.

  • @732c4803eb2e277d0054b17154744686:disqus This is a blog about transportation and streets. People are leaving their thoughts about topics related to transportation and streets. If this was a general news blog covering the wider scope of the Sandy disaster, the same people would be leaving different comments.

  • Voter

    It took us only four days to once again prioritize private motoring over public transit. Good luck building a climate-resilient city, everyone!

  • voltairesmistress

    Hi Ben Fried,

    Yes I know this is a transportation blog, since I contribute to it in San Francisco.  We have had our share of earthquakes, wildfires, and the like.  In a similar disaster, I would want to know what was happening to my neighbors across the Bay.  And I would want to know how transportation isolation or relative geographic remoteness was playing into rescue and recovery efforts outside of my urban core.  And I would want to help by getting myself the hell over there via transit, as long as my being there was helpful and not a hindrance to those who’ve lost relatives, homes, etc.  So, yes, Streetsblog New York is not doing what it should to encourage a sense of connection and real actions to help those in need.  How about advocating that readers take the PUBLIC ferry over to provide
    food and offers of service to those in need?  Isn’t that what roads, boats, and
    transit are supposed to do — connect us to others?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know whether it was the HOV restriction or gas shortage or general lack of viable destinations in downtown Manhattan, but the streets were abandoned today. It made for dreamy cycling. I think the carpool restriction makes infinite sense until the subways are functional.

  • Pete

    Speaking of the Subways being functional:  Is there *any* word at this time as to the condition/ETA of the Brooklyn lines other than the 4/5/F?  The absolute silence about the status of the A/C, B/D/N/Q, G, 2/3 and L lines has me concerned…

  • Ben Kintisch

    Many of us in this echo chamber know that HOV restrictions are the only thing that prevented traffic chaos from returning to the streets of NYC for the last two days. If Bloomberg caves this easily because HOV restrictions are unpopular, let’s see how happy these solo drivers remain when they can go back to driving alone and sitting in standstill traffic.

  • Miles Bader

    voltairemistress is a troll.  ignore.

  • It’s about time they got rid of the restrictions. They’ve been preventing many of us from getting to and from work and we’ve got a lot of clients needing that work done in the wake of Sandy.

  • Bolwerk

    @jonolan:disqus : yeah, they haven’t been facilitating getting many more people to work, right? 

  • The Lexington Avenue line is back…4 and 5 trains are replacing 2 and 3 service in Brooklyn. I would expect most other subway service to be restored by Tuesday at the latest EXCEPT for these segments:

    1. Sea Beach Line (damage in open cut)
    2. Brighton Line (damage in open cut)
    3. A line beyond Howard Beach (needs total reconstruction)
    4. Service to and from Coney Island.

    SIR, BTW, is now running hourly service.

  • fj

    Actually there’s been hundreds of volunteers who have been really great.

    And the mayor & staff has been doing an amazing job, heads & shoulder far beyond expectations climate action. . . Terribly encouraging considering the onrush climate chaos to come

  • fj

    The real solutions will come when sufficient numbers of people can travel the city in much better ways than using cars where safety, convenience & comfort are major concerns & of course when pro-automotive special interests lose enough political clout to significantly change from business as usual.

  • Bolwerk

    @03e6765e9e59d824b239ed0fe11c682c:disqus : little chance of that happening, when ~60-70% transit dependency in NYC electorally amplifies into nearly 100% car coddling in our state legislature and (even more confoundingly) in our own City Council. That’s NYS/NYC, forget wider Americ(k)a.

    We can expect it to get worse, too. Take a step back from Sandy: the automotive infrastructure we depend on is weak and crumbling, and expensive as hell to fix. Whether through conscious decision-making or simply unconsciously acting on their polluted value system, boneheads like Jimmy Vacca won’t hesitate to throw transit users under the bus.

  • fj

    We are entering rapidly changing times best described by the saying: never say never again.

  • Anonymous

    I support the principle behind the HOV3 restrictions, but the implementation quite possibly made things worse.  I think it was pretty clear to anyone who tried to travel through the checkpoints in a car that that enforcement was creating massive bottlenecks.

    I hope we take this lesson to create a disaster-response plan in advance of the next incident.  If HOV3 is too difficult to enforce, then maybe just have a plan in place to restrict all private cars from entering Manhattan except taxis. Any such restrictions should be communicated beforehand so that as many people as possible will be aware of them and modify their behavior accordingly.

    For the long term, a price-based system is superior to any other kind of restriction on driving.

  • voltairesmistress

    Hi Miles Bader,
    I doubt you’ll see this comment so late in the game, but just wanted to say you should refrain from automatically calling people with whom you disagree trolls.  Or you should bother to look at their profile or contributions to blogs they mention.  Had you done that, you would have seen you disagreed with me on this issue, but probably not on a whole host of others.  And you would have seen thoughtful commentary.  I hope you change, because what makes streetsblog more interesting are the policy and point of view debates, not the endless pointed headed echo chamber of some sites.

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