City Council Passes Congestion Pricing. Next Stop: Albany.

The City Council has voted 30-20 to approve the home rule message sending congestion pricing to the state legislature. Noah Budnick of Transportation Alternatives gave us the full roll call, after the jump.





Not present:

  • Mark

    Woo hoo!

  • Gargamel Tralfaz

    Congratulations! But shame on Brooklyn pols that voted against. This will not be forgotten.

  • J. Mork

    Seriously — “Bill DeBlasio, anti-environment” doesn’t seem like a very good campaign slogan.

  • Dave

    So what are the chances in Albany? With Paterson supporting it does it look good?

  • Lars

    Very disappointed in DeB.

  • Josh

    Huh, I guess we found something Leroy Comrie and Charles Barron can agree on.

  • vnm

    A shout out to the Bronx Delegation! Seven-for-seven, one absent.

  • Mark

    Well done, council member Dickens! I know you had to agonize over it but you made the right call by voting in favor of CP. I also appreciate the attentiveness your staff has shown over other of my pedestrian-related concerns. You will have my vote in the future.

  • Niccolo Machiavelli

    I count Yassky, Liu and Quinn as yeses with city-wide political aspirations. Did I miss anyone?

    Never threaten, never beg, never forget.

  • Big cheer for the Bronx!! Thanks for coming around Lappin!

  • Jim

    Hmm, let me guess: Charles Barron, man of the people, does not take the subway to work.

  • Riverdalian

    Oliver Koppell deserves credit for standing up to pressure in Riverdale. Now he needs to persuade Assemblyman Dinowitz to do the same.

  • Felix

    Mach, there’s also James. Rumor has it she wants to be speaker, if that can be considered “citywide”.

  • No

    Barron and DiBlasio are running for Marty Markowitz’ seat last I heard. Guess we need to find a candidate to support.

  • momos

    Hats off to Quinn. Thanks for coming through, Madame Speaker!

  • vnm

    Also big kudos to McMahon who bucked his two fellow Staten Island councilmen and realized that Staten Island had *nothing* to lose (they pay the toll already) and a lot to gain with CP from express buses.

  • Slopion


  • Larry Littlefield

    (Very disappointed in DeB.)

    Disappointment implies surprise. Are you surprised?

    The way to get ahead personally, if that is the basis of your political career, is to align yourself with those who have advantages and favors and have things to offer in return. If you are motivated by a mission, that’s not what you do, but Mr. DeB managed to defeat many such people to win his seat.

    BTW, guess which part of the city has the most car owners commuting to work by subway? And the highest percentage of subway journey to work over all? I only saw 1990 data, not 2000, but the answer was Park Slope.

  • Larry Littlefield

    And, by the way, those council members voting in favor, and even to an extent those voting against, have gained some insulation from the backlash if the legislature votes down CP and when higher fares, deferred maintenance and service cuts hit the MTA.

    I won’t even blame Lew for than, since he isn’t responsible for the financing of the 2000-04 MTA Capital Plan, the 2005-09 capital plan, the 2000 pension enhancement, etc.

    Remember, if CP goes down Weiner and Brodsky have promised $billions in MTA funds. Meanwhile, got to get the rest of my family to try getting around by bicycle. We don’t have a placard, and cannot park in Manhattan.

  • Hilary

    Larry – you could try for a handicapped placard:

  • Apparently, General Motors is reading the writing on the wall, possibly noting congestion pricing as yet another nail in the coffin of combustible engines; they just purchased Specialized Bicycles.

  • Toll Crasher

    Bloomberg bribes and arm-twists, then proclaims that this is what the people wanted. What a facsist! Just wait until New York’s economy is stunted by reduced business activity. Congestion-pricing will forever be known as “Bloomberg’s Folly”

  • Check the date

    At least the council vote is real. Check the date on the Specialized story coming out of Britain (April 1.)

  • Placardomat

    The handicap permit loophole seems under control. The bill calls for using the NYC DOT disability permit process which is much more stringent than the state requirement. NYC DOT requires a referral from a private doc to an NYC HHC doctor for an exam. The state lets any podiatrist, osteopath, nurse practitioner or MD qualify applicants for a state placard. Fortunately the state placard is not a freebie under the senate/city hall legislation.

  • hot cross puns

    toll crasher, get real.
    1) it IS what the people wanted – multiple polls showed over 60% support citywide, and majorities in every borough. why can’t you and the other opponents acknowledge that and realize that you don’t speak for the majority?
    2) one of the main reasons for congestion pricing is because nyc’s economy is stunted so much by congestion. one goal of congestion pricing is to improve the economy – and nyc’s largest business group is one of the main supporters. but i guess your gut knows more than they do.

  • BicyclesOnly

    The more possible CP seems, the more I wonder how the roadway dynamic might be transformed. As soon as a year from now, I may be riding south to work and suddenly at 59th Street, the traffic will slow down as out-of-towners top to read the signs about congestion pricing. Then the traffic will thin out relative to the mess in the 60’s. Bicyclists will be able to zoom through as “preferred” road users. Everyone else is paying $8, but bicyclists pay nothing, because they don’t meaningfully contribute to congestion.

    Come on NYS, it’s up to you!

  • MrManhattan

    It’s “down to Albany” now…

    We have to put the pressure on Silver.

    Let him know that he either stands with us, or he should start looking for a district with a few farms and a prison to run in… (since he seems to be acting like more of an “upstater” than a “New Yorker” at this point).

    Remember… WE supply the money, so WE can cut them off by seceding.

    Their choice

  • Dave H.

    Anyone know what it would take to increase the congestion fee once it is in place? Granted, this is a three-year trial so perhaps there are no provisions for changing the fee. London did increase the fee significantly after first putting it into place and a more permanent CP would need to have some mechanism for doing so at least to keep up with inflation. Would it require legislative approval for each increase? (what a nightmare)

  • Moser

    Who’s left to vote for for Brooklyn BP? Neither of these two chumps.

  • Angus Grieve-Smith

    I count Yassky, Liu and Quinn as yeses with city-wide political aspirations. Did I miss anyone?

    Eric Gioia! The most important step in his small-g green campaign for Public Advocate.

  • D’oh. Accidebntally posted this on the prior thread:

    A tremendous victory and an impressive show by Speaker Quinn.

    From my swath of Brooklyn, kudos to Felder, James, Recchia and Yassky.

    I am disappointed in deBlasio and for the life of me can’t figure out how he sees this as a winning stance.

  • momos

    Re: #23 at least check the date

    At least check the time zone.

    Before you make accusations of phantom stories, consider the fact that the UK is 5 hours ahead of New York. The story was released at 12:02 GMT, which made it April 1st in the UK while here in New York it’s still March 31st.

  • Angus Grieve-Smith

    “This plan, while wrapped up in three incredibly important and laudable goals,” including cleaning the air, reducing traffic and paying for mass transit, said Lewis A. Fidler, a Brooklyn councilman who strongly opposed the plan, “is designed to deter people from coming into a part of the city if they can’t afford it.”

    He added: “What’s next? We’re going to charge a user fee to come into Central Park because it’s crowded?”

    Shame on you, Lew, for such a false analogy. I’ve challenged you on this several times and you haven’t responded, but here it is again three times so you don’t miss it:

    You are not your car.
    You are not your car.
    You are not your car.

    Congestion pricing is not designed to deter people from coming into a part of the city if they can’t afford it. It’s designed to deter them from bringing their cars with them.

  • Spud Spudly

    No, it’s designed to deter certain people from bringing their cars with them. Many people will feel no effect from CP.

  • MAA

    I’m guessing he would have been a “no”, but did David Weprin vote?

  • brooklyn and i

    shame on you simch felder———— for the tax for all brooklyn ———–
    shame on you simcha felder ———thousands of volunteers from your jewish broders who are going day and night to all hospitals doctors appointments starting from evry biker chulim to chased cars or gmach hatzola who will suffer from the tax it will be big pay back time we have thousands of volunteers from all brooklyn nyc who will give payback

    shame on you simcha

  • The King of Spain

    Wow, this post brought outs some emotions!

  • P

    thousands of volunteers from your jewish broders who are going day and night to all hospitals”

    No- not all hospitals. Simply the ones below 60th Street.

    Also, if they go by car at night they don’t pay the fee.
    If they go during the day they can take the subway.

  • Jaime

    I realize all of the previous posts are pro-congestion pricing– but what about those areas of the city that have poor subway service and few express buses. Try coming in one morning from Far Rockaway. Driving is a pleasure– anything on the subway is nothing short of a nightmare. More than once we’ve had hour or more delays in downtown Brooklyn, making it impossible to plan to get to work on time. If 3 of us drive in, it’s smooth sailing. But we certainly can’t afford $8/day, more. . .

  • vnm

    Jaime, if 3 of you drive in, it’s $2.67 per person.

  • mike

    Reading all the comments from the CP opposition, one would think that all the residents of Queens, Brooklyn, Staten Island and the Bronx are all terribly sick and that the only doctors are in Manhattan!

  • ddartley

    brooklyn and i:

    air pollution generally blows west to east. Shameful Simcha Felder’s voted to reduce airborne toxins to blow over you and the kids in your neighborhood. Fewer trips to “all hospitals!”

  • Choose wisely

    Don’t live in Far Rockaway if you commute to the city. If you do and you want to drive, then you pay to pollute and congestion our streets – PERIOD

  • Larry Littlefield

    (Don’t live in Far Rockaway if you commute to the city.)

    You might mean the other end of the Rockaways. If East Side Access gets built, providing the LIRR with a choice of GCT or Penn, Far Rockway will have a pretty good Midtown commute.

  • Hilary

    And if you live in the policemen’s community at Breezy Point, I think you’re slated to get a highly subsidized ferry. In fact the transit should be so good that real estate values should soar. Can outsiders buy one of those charming bungalows on the sandy roads near the most beautiful beach on the east coast?!

  • ManhattanDowntowner

    True reflection on what NYC really wants!

    In regard to those councilmembers who voted Yes on Congestion Pricing:

    The NY1 poll results, taken right after the NY City Council gave the nod on congestion pricing, represent how NY’ers REALLY feel. There was obviously MUCH sellout/give back action going on at the City Council.
    The NY1 snap poll question:

    If your council member voted “yes” on congestion pricing, will you support him/her in the future?

    Yes 33.0%

    No 66.0%

    Councilmembers who voted Yes, against their constituency, on congestion pricing will lose their supporters by a ratio of 2:1.

    Voter registration drive, anyone?

  • uSkyscraper

    It’s important to get congestion pricing passed as a first step, but for the love of God please take the opportunity now to make the system truly fair and ensure all contribute to the stated three goals (“cleaning the air, reducing traffic and paying for mass transit”).

    1) Make the tolls uniform so that there are no distortions. All tolls should be in one direction only so that you don’t pay $13 to come and go via QMT but only $8 via Holland Tunnel.

    2) The PA should give the “peak” part of its tolls (i.e. the $2 on top of $6 off-peak) to CP so that it the NJ commuters are doing their part to pay for mass transit. Threaten their WTC or other projects if they don’t play ball.

  • Zach

    re Jaime (#39): If you have three people driving to Midtown, the fee three ways is $2.66 — on a daily basis, that’s less than a monthly MetroCard! More power to you for carpooling, anyway, getting in from Rockaway is a big pain.

  • Uskyscraper, can you stop implying that the PA isn’t paying for mass transit? From that $2 increase, $3 billion is going to the new train tunnel, and $3.3 billion is going to increase capacity on the PATH trains by 20%:

  • Also, the people who write the software aren’t that stupid. If someone goes round-trip through the Queens-Midtown tunnel, it will show that they paid $10, so no additional congestion pricing charge will be deducted. Remember, it’s done on a daily basis with EZ-Pass, not a per-toll basis.


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